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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: Some Blue Posts on How guilds "level" etc
Leveling Speed (Source)
We are looking for as much feedback as we can get on the guild advancement leveling speed and experience gain. Please use this thread to report any feedback you have. As much info as you can give on the size of the guild, active members and what you were doing to earn the guild experience would be extremely helpful.
We know that not all of the ways to earn guild experience are active yet (rated bg's for example), but they will be soon. The feedback on how it feels with just quests / bosses now would still be useful.
We will be tuning the values to get where we need to be until they feel right. Your input on this is greatly appreciated. =)
How does a guild gain experience? (Source)
Guild experience can be earned in any of four ways:
1. Completing quests / daily quests that reward experience
2. Killing any dungeon / raid boss with a guild group/raid
3. Winning a rated battleground with a guild group/raid
4. Earning a guild achievement (these are nice, fat chunks of experience so they feel great when you get em)
A guild group/raid is 4/5, 8/10, 12/15 or 20/25 members of the group/raid being guild members.
Guild Heirlooms (Source)
The heirlooms on the guild vendor are just like other heirlooms in the game except that these must be unlocked via a guild achievement and you must have the required guild faction to purchase them. After that, you can use them just like normal heirloom items.
We did have thoughts of making these items guild bound a long time ago but we came to the conclusion that that was just too limiting of a design. Imagine leaving a guild and losing all the guild rewards that you worked so hard to get? Taking items away from players is something that we would like to avoid at all costs.
Guild Rewards (Source)
The guild rewards you guys are seeing in game are not hooked up yet. Guild rewards have 3 requirements that must be be met before you can use them. First and foremost, they must be unlocked via a guild achievement. Let's just say, that for example, you need to complete the new guild achievement "We are Legendary" in order to unlock the Dark Phoenix. That achievement requires the guild to gain access to all 6 legendary weapons currently available in the game. (note that all guild achievements start on Cataclysm launch, so anything you have now will not matter, it must be done with your guild after launch) ( wow so all those guilds with legendary items will have to start over. I know one on Lightning's Blade that has them all...kinda sucks)
So, let's say that your guild get's this achievement and thereby unlocks the Dark Phoenix on the guild vendor. At this point anyone in the guild can see the item on the vendor, but they will need a specific amount of guild faction to be able to purchase it. In this case, let's say exalted. Now, once you have the guild faction, you can purchase the item for its gold price. (prices will vary based on the reward)
I am using the Dark Phoenix and the We are Legendary guild achievement as examples here but you should get the idea. Don't worry, we wont be handing out all the goodies so easily. =)
Guild Advancement: How the size of the guild affects it (Source)
We are doing everything in our power to make sure that the guild advancement system works for guilds of every shape and size.
I don't want to say anything without talking to our UI programmers first but I can tell you that we have discussed this limitation and what we can do about it.
Daily Guild XP Cap (Source)
There is a daily cap in place for guild XP in order to keep things balanced between large/small guilds. We made the cap high enough that in most cases, you will not even notice it. The cap is visible on the guild XP bar as the blue color. You can also get more details by hovering over the xp bar and reading the tooltip.
Gaining Guild Reputation (Source)
Any quest that rewards experience to you will also reward guild experience. The amount of guild reputation earned is based on the amount of guild experience rewarded. Note that daily quests will also reward guild experience.
All guild reputation is gained as a factor of guild experience.
Guild Rank System (Source)
The entire guild rank system in the process of being overhauled. The new interface for this will be much better and allow you to actually move ranks up and down as well as copy an existing ranks permissions into a new one.
These burning questions need answering! (Source)
1.) No matter how hard you work at your own guild rep, even if you farm it like a psyco, can a GM just "Deny" you of the guild rep rewards.
GM's have no control over the guild rewards. As long as your guild has unlocked the item via the achievement and you have the required guild rep, you can purchase the item.
2.) Are all the standard guild control functions staying the same? (GBank control, inv and remove settings, ect)
Yes, most all of the guild control functions are remaining the same. We are however introducing a new ui for guild ranks that will allow you much more control.
3.) I understand there is going to be an exp cap per day, but as per reward and ability, will this at least be the determining factor that a 10 and 25 guild are not equals. (its an mmo ppl, go make friends)
The experience cap is in place to help balance out the experience curve between large and small guilds. We tuned the cap to be be high enough that in most cases, you will never hit it. (when I say most, I mean average size guilds which make up the majority of wow's guilds) _________________
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